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| James Earl Jones in John Sayles' Matewan (1987). | 
From 1981 to 1989, I was assistant producer and co-host of the radio show 
On the Arts
 at CJRT-FM in Toronto. With the late Tom Fulton, who was the show's 
prime host and producer, we did a half-hour interview program where we 
talked to artists from all fields. In 1994, after I had gone to CBC, I 
had an idea to collate an interview anthology from some of the more 
interesting discussions I'd had with guests from that period. Since they
 all took place during the Eighties, I thought I could edit the 
collection into an oral history of the decade from some of its most 
outspoken participants. The book was assembled from interview 
transcripts and organized thematically. I titled it 
Talking Out of Turn: Revisiting the '80s.
 With financial help from the Canada Council, I shaped the individual 
pieces into a number of pertinent themes relevant to the decade. By the 
time I began to contact publishers, though, the industry was starting to
 change. At one time, editorial controlled marketing. Now the reverse 
was taking place. Acquisition editors, who once responded to an 
interesting idea for a book, were soon following marketing divisions 
concerned with whether the person doing it was hot enough to sell it.
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| Tom Fulton, host and producer of On the Arts. | 
For a few years, I flogged the proposal to various publishers but many 
were worried that there were too many people from different backgrounds 
(e.g. 
Margaret Atwood sitting alongside 
Oliver Stone).
 Another publisher curiously chose to reject it because, to them, it 
appeared to be a book about me promoting my interviews (as if I was 
trying to be a low-rent Larry King) rather than seeing it as a 
commentary on the decade through the eyes of the guests. All told, the 
book soon faded away and I turned to other projects. However, when 
recently uncovering the original proposal and sample interviews, I felt 
that maybe some of them could find a new life on 
Critics at Large.
After the murder of Martin Luther King Jr, in the late sixties, the 
momentum of the Civil Rights movement seemed to wane. No leader could 
fill that vacuum and black voices in the eighties became fragmented. 
Often the question of black identity and culture came up during interviews. The chapter entitled 
Black Legacies included conversations with figures like author 
Toni Morrison, film archivist G. William Jones, and actor James Earl Jones. With the Academy Awards approaching 
– and the controversy over the dearth of black talent among this year's Oscar nominees still heating up 
– and February being Black History Month, it is timely to bring together the latter two interviews, both conducted in 1987.